While this is a reply to a comment by Shubhendu Trivedi in Gowers's blog, I hope that following is interetisting independently of the discussion there.

**Opinion 1.**Zeilberger admits there that he has no idea about the methods used even in his examples (the 4th paragraph).

He is correct that Jones polynomial is to a big extent a combinatorial gadget. Probably, he is not aware that this gadget applies to topology only if you have a purely topological theorem at your disposal (proved by Reidemeister in 1930s, it remains to be a non-trivial theorem). He may be not aware also of the fact that Jones polynomial did not led to solution of any problem of interest to topologists at the time. The proof of the so-called Tait conjecture was highly publicized, and many people believe that this was an important conjecture. Fortunately, there is a document proving that this is not the case. Namely, R. Kirby with the help of many other topologists compiled around 1980 a list of problems in topology. About 15 years later he published an updated and expanded version. Both editions consist of several parts, one of which is devoted to problems in knot theory. Tait conjecture is about knots and it is not in the 1980 list (by time Kirby started to prepare the new expanded list, it was already proved). Nobody was interested in it, and its solution has no applications.

Eventually, the theory of Jones polynomial and its generalizations turned into an independent self-contained field, desperately searching for connections with other branches of mathematics or at least with topology itself.

But D. Zeilberger should be aware that the Tutte polynomial belongs to the conceptual mathematics. It is one of the precursors of one of the main ideas of Grothendieck, namely, of K-theory. There is no reasons to think that Grothendieck was aware of Tutte's work, but Tutte polynomial is still an essentially a K-theoretic construction.

The Seiberg-Witten ideas have nothing to do with combinatorics. The Seiberg-Witten invariants are based on topology and some advanced parts of the theory of nonlinear PDE. In the last decade some attempts to get rid of PDE in this theory were partially successful. They involve some rather combinatorics-like looking pictures. I wonder if Zeilberger wrote anything about this. But the situation is essentially the same as with the Tutte polynomial. These quite remarkable attempts are inspired, not always directly, by such abstract ideas as 2-categories, for example. Note that the category theory is the most abstract part of mathematics, except, may be, modern set theory (which is a field in which only very few mathematicians are working).

**Opinion 62.**First, the factual mistakes.

Grothendieck did not dislike other sciences. In particular, at the age of approximately 42-46 he developed a serious interest in biology. Ironically, in the same paragraph Zeilberger commends I.M. Gelfand for his interest in biology.

Major applications of the algebraic geometry were not initiated by the “Russian” school, but the soviet mathematicians indeed embraced this field very enthusiastically. And initial applications did not involve any Grothendieck-style algebraic geometry.

More important is the fact that Zeilberger’s opinions are self-contradicting. He dislikes the abstract (in fact, the conceptual) mathematics, and at the same time praises the “Russian” school for applications of exactly the same abstract conceptual methods.

Zeilberger writes: “Grothendieck was a loner, and hardly collaborated”. Does he really knows at least a little about Grothendieck and his work? Grothendieck’s rebuilding of algebraic geometry in an abstract conceptual framework was a highly collaborative enterprise. He has almost no papers in algebraic geometry published by him alone. The foundational text EGA, Elements of Algebraic Geometry, has Grothendieck and Dieudonne as authors (in this order, violating the tradition to list the authors of mathematical papers in alphabetic order) and was written by Dieudonne alone. More advanced things were published as SGA, Seminar on Algebraic Geometry, and most of this series of Springer Lecture Notes in Mathematics Volumes is authored by Grothendieck and various collaborators. Some present his ideas, but don’t have him as an author. One of them is written by P. Deligne and authored by P. Deligne alone.

Zeilberger has no idea about what kind of youth was given to Grothendieck and presents some (insulting, I would say) conjectures about it. Grothendieck was always concerned with injustice done to other people, in particular within mathematics. His elevated sense of (in)justice eventually led him to (fairly misguided, I believe, but sincere and well-intentioned) political activity. He was initially encouraged by colleagues, who abandoned him when this enterprise started to require more than a lip service.

The phrase

*“...was already kicked out of high-school (for political reasons), so could focus all his rebellious energy on innovative math”*is obviously absurd to everyone even superficially familiar with the history of the USSR. If someone was persecuted on political grounds, then (he could by summarily executed, but at least) any mathematical or other scientific activity would be impossible for him for life. There would be no ways to be a professor of Moscow State University, or taking part in the soviet atomic-nuclear project.
Surely, Gelfand said something like Zeilberger writes about the future of combinatorics. I never was at the Gelfand seminar, neither in Moscow, nor in Rutgers. But there are his publications, from which one can get the idea what kind of combinatorics Gelfand was interested in. Would Zeilberger attempted to read any of these papers, he would hardly see there even a trace of what is so dear to him. All works of Gelfand are highly conceptual.

Finally, it is worth to mention that Gelfand always wanted to be the one who determines the fashion, not the one who follows it. Of course, I see nothing wrong with it. In the late 60ies he regretted that he missed the emergence of a new field: algebraic and differential topology. He attempted to rectify this by two series of papers (with coauthors, by this time he did not published anything under only his name), one about cohomology of infinitely dimensional Lie algebras, another about a (conjectural) combinatorial definition of Pontrjagin classes (a basic notion in topology). It is very instructive to see what was a “combinatorial definition” for I.M. Gelfand.

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